I am convinced. My name is not Nicole.
Victorina originally planned to write an article dissecting the motivations of Nicole for recanting. We heard stories of the 100K cash gift to the family. We know of the feminist interpretation of this as part of the conspiracy by Malacanang. Yet, we also heard rumors that in fact she was a prostitute who saw a golden opportunity.
However, we decided not to tell you our story of Nicole. Instead, we will let Nicole tell her story. This is from her sworn testimony. We trust that our readers will share their points of view. We will also share ours.
What to make out of the story of Nicole?
Deep inside, however, I know that I may never be able to move on for as long as I continue to search for answers to so many questions that have lingered in my mind regarding the incident in Subic more that three years ago. Daniel Smith was convicted of rape because the court accepted my version that he took advantage of my intoxication i raping me inside a van that took us to the seawall located at the SBMA Alaba Pier at around 11:30 in the evening of November 1, 2005.
1. Daniel Smith's witnesses said that while we were at the Neptune Club, I sat on Daniel Smith's lap and that we kissed each other passionately. I remember that before I met Daniel Smith at the Neptune Club, all I ate was a slice of pizza at the Grand Leisure Hotel. After the pizza, everything else was alcohol drinks from vodka sprite, B52, Singaporean sling, B53, long island ice tea to bullfrog all of which I drank bottoms up. I do not recall Daniel Smith having ordered any alcoholic drink for me. My drinks were all paid for by Chris Mills who invited me to go to the Neptune Club.
2. I had no opportunity to deny in court that I kissed Daniel Smith but with the amount of alcoholic mixed drinks I took, my low tolerance level for alcohol and with only a slice of pizza all night, it dawned upon me that I may have possibly lost my inhibitions, became so intimate with Daniel Smith and did more than just dancing and talking with him like everyone else on the dance floor. Looking back, I would not have agreed to talk with Daniel Smith and dance with him no less than three times if I did not enjoy his company or was at least attracted to him since I met him for the very first time on the dance floor of Neptune Club.
3. When I danced with Daniel Smith for the third time, my companions, Chris Mills has already left Neptune Club since they had to catch their curfew time at the military base. The lighting was sufficient for people to recognize each other and other marines were with their Filipino partners drinking, dancing, and enjoying each other's company and kissing and hugging among partners was a common scene.
4. With the events at the Neptune Club in mind, I keep on asking myself, if Daniel Smith wanted to rape me, why would he carry me out of the Neptune Club using the main entrance in full view of the security guard and the other customers? Why would the van park right in front of Neptune Club? Why would Daniel Smith and his companies bring me to the seawall of Alaba pier and casually leave this area that was well lighted and with many people roaming around? If they believed that I was raped, would they have not dumped me instead in a dimly lit area along the highway going to Alaba pier to avoid detection?
5. I told the court that Daniel Smith kissed my lips and neck and held my breast inside the van. Recalling my testimony, I ask myself how I could have remembered this if witnesses told the court that I passed out and looked unconscious when I was brought to the van by Daniel Smith. How could I have resisted his advances given this condition? Daniel Smith and I were alone on the third row of the van which had limited space and I do not recall anyone inside the van who held my hand or any part of my body. What I can recall is that there was very loud music and shouting inside the van.
6. If the travel from Neptune Club took only several minutes and with the driver of the van trying to beat the curfew time of his passengers, how could I have instantly regained my consciousness and talked to the people upon reaching the seawall of Alaba Pier? When people gathered around me at the seawall, everyone seemed to have drawn the conclusion that I was raped except for one who called me a bitch.
7. Based on the account of the SBMA police, I was very hesitant to board the mobile police car that brought me to the headquarters for investigation. I was so confused and the first thing that entered my mind was how would my mother and boyfriend react if they learn that I was last seen with Daniel Smith and that a condom was seen on my pants after Daniel Smith left the van? I was scared of losing not only my American boyfriend but the chance of living in the United States. In fact, I did not immediately tell my boyfriend that I was raped by Daniel Smith. All I said was that something bad happened to me.
8. I expect many sectors to question my motives in executing this statement more than three years after the incident. However, as I practically grew up interacting with American servicemen in Zamboanga City who treated me and my family very well, and thinking over and over again how I may have conducted myself at the Neptune Club, I can't help but entertain doubts on whether the sequence of events in Subic last November of 2005 really occurred the way the court found them to have happened.
9. My conscience continues to bother me realizing that I may have in fact been so friendly and intimate with Daniel Smith at the Neptune Club that he was led to believe that I was amenable to having sex or that we simply just got carried away. I would rather risk public outrage than do nothing to help the court in ensuring that justice is served.
What say you?
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Free Smith!
Nicole is a prostitute.
punyeta ang gwapo ni Smith. Baka sya ang na rape ni Nicole!
Nicole is a rapist!
*Jail Nicole or sentence her to community service in Romeo Jalosjos' house!
*Sentence her to community service and let her clean ever gotesco til it looks like trinoma or bonifacio high street
*Sentence her to be operated upon by Calayan til she looks like Abunda
*Illegalize and penalize recantation baka gumawa si Mancao eh..hihi
*Turn her story into a Maalala mo kaya episode but change her identity into a UP undergrad instead
note
Nicole recanted because her attorney is an uglier version of trixie angeles.hihi joke..peace
Hermes Gang Secretary
with this, she not only degraded herself but the rest of the Pinays.
On the 100,000 pesos cash...
You may want to check this one out, but I also heard that the 100,000 was given to Nicole or her family upon orders of the court.
Truth is often very elusive in this country. Stories can change depending on the enticements being offered on the table. The fact that she got some cash and a visa to the U.S. will no doubt be suspect to some people. The sad part about this of course is that the next person who cries rape will have to work so much harder to be believed (even by pinoys).
never believed nicole's story. this is based on transcripts ofthe court case. and this new affidavit by nicole proves that there was reasonable doubt even then. so the courts was swayed by politics, public opinion and nationalism gone wild. NAKAKAHIYA!!
at fault is that feminist lawyer of nicole... just because a person is female doesnt mean she can twist law. thats why filipinas are described as either maids or prostis kasi ang sama ng ugali!
from the beginning, i never believed nicole was raped. meron akong kakilala who is from a cause oriented group na kinausap si nicole kasi they wanted to ride along and get some publicity pero di siya pinatulan kasi they didnt think she was credible. nagmukhang tanga lang si evalyn ursua. yan kasi di nangingilatis muna.
Nicole is a whore... Katrina Legarda should retire from practice!
Katrina Legarda should just shut up... Nakakahiya ka !
Nicole recanted because her attorney is an uglier version of trixie angeles... Who Katrina Legarda?
IF Smith is innocent, why did he have to pay her P100,000 for her new statement?
Smitty
justice system in the Philippines SUCKS big time!
hay naku Nicole never go back to the Philippines you filthy lying bitch...YOU ARE OUR NATIONAL SHAME... POK POK!
This is exactly why, other people think, especially alot of Americans, that Filipinos are nothing but users and opportunists. This is embarassing. This Nicole should have been accountable for her actions and not accuse someone of raping her just so she can save face from her family and boyfriend. Putting innocent people in prison is not a joke. And you have caused that man time away from his family and have shamed him.
Nakakahiya talaga..
so much shame. maybe she is another atenean.
i never believed a word nicole said anyway, when smith was sentenced i really felt for him and his family; just think about the trauma and damage this has done to smith, thinking he was only 21 when all of this happend;
i also think smith was the sacrificial lamb of our "justice" system, it was such a high profile case that no one was really looking into facts or no one was brave enough to thrash the case rather they were all thinking about their political gains...
seriously, how can someone cope after such a traumatic experience, i say all the people involved in this should be fired and get their ass whooped...
i'm really pissed about this!
this just show how incompetent the people running our gov't are...
i just have so much to say my blood is boiling!!!
HEADS NEED TO ROLL on this one!!!!
imagine such stupidity!
Free Smith!
Nakakhiya si Nicole. I knew it was not rape. The lawyer just wanted to have a controversial case to catapult her to fame but didn't happen.
And yet, the people believed her.
Philippines loved the circus she created.
Everyone used the American.
Not just Nicole.
He stood no chance.
You never do.
yu Katrina Legarda is bad news!
Dear Rain,
This is by far the funniest post in Victorina ever;
Anonymous said...
so much shame. maybe she is another atenean.
Hahahahaha!
Amiel Aguilar Cabanlig
I TOTALLY AGREE!
maybe NICOLE is another Atenean.
Harharhar!!!!
Was “Nicole” raped?
Results:
No: 42%
Yes:6%
Maybe: 6%
I dont Care: 40%
Others: 6%
appalling!
Nicole DID have sex with her. Period.
Ahhh man this is killing me;
maybe NICOLE is another Atenean.
IF a woman is drunk she is therefore legally incapacitated to consent any sexual activity (not sure if this applies in Philippine law). I think she's suffering from "blame the victim" syndrome, ever since the story broke, a lot of Filipinos has spoken out about how "she presented herself to be raped". I don't see her statement as recantation at all. Her statements has just proven how the event damages her emotionally and psychologically. Sexual abuse victims has always and will always eventually put the blame to themselves. What more with Nicole who was born and raised in the Philippines, where being raped is already a social no no, and being raped at a place where practically every woman is perceived as a whore? I can't imagine how painful it is to be her.
Pangilinan is correct, it wasn't her who failed us, it was the Philippines Justice system that failed her and us (it's been 3 years, from where Smith is, conviction and including exhaustion of all legal procedure just take months). Add to that is the government who approved of the clandestine transfer of Smith from city jail to the US embassy. Now tell me, how do you think Nicole felt when all these was unveiling right before her eyes? With fellow Filipinos calling her a whore and the apparent lack or support from her own government, I would lose hope as well and would just want to forget it and leave the country and leave Filipinos to be screwed by their own government. At least she has a brighter future elsewhere.
yes, nicole is atenean. ateneo de zamboanga.
When the story broke out, I was skeptical that "SUZETTE" aka Nicole was indeed raped. There were so many inconsistencies in her story.
What's sad is that SHE WAS USED by media hungry individuals and made it a national issue. Now she recants. In my opinion, aside from monetary and VISA considerations, I believe that guilt has caught up with her. She is tired from being manipulated yet again by the same people bent on using her FOR THEIR GAIN.
This was way worse than being actually raped, for the victims became the whole nation and we were all taken for a ride. And as a secondary note, I believe no rape ever occurred. Was there consensual SEX? She charged three servicemen with rape and won didn't she.
I am not siding with Smith. But may this serve as a warning to all.
I was on Daniel Smith's side the whole time! No, di ko sha type. I prefer Asians thank you.
I believe that when girls get raped in a bar/club it's partly their fault. There are precautions to avoiding this (i.e. clubbing with people you can trust, NOT clubbing alone, NOT getting in a van with complete strangers when you're under the influence of alcohol)and clearly that Nicole DID NOT observe these.
When I read this in the paper this morning, NANGGIGIL AKO!!! OPORTUNISTANG YAN!!
I'm no legal expert but shouldn't this be considered perjury?? I'm assuming at the time of the rape case she did swear under oath that she was gang banged.
Ugh. I don't know which is worse. This or the BAYOT FAGjardo scandal.
It seems obvious that she wasn't raped in the first place, but was prodded by her lawyer and some activist to say rape. If her lawyer is really serious and honest, she would instead handle the cases of poor girls living in slum areas. the lawyer is only after fame.
to my dear kababayans,
i think it is already too late to be lambasting nicole for what she had done. was she really raped, who knows? did she get monetary compensation to do another affidavit, who knows? that fact of the matter is, those who thought that nicole was lying kept it to themselves and were silent.
however, i do think that we should look at our legal system closely on how it failed to protect the innocent, if ever he really is, regardless of nationality.
as for heckling the lawyers, it was their duty to do what's best for their client and i think this just shows how great they were, regardless if their client was raped or not. i think most of us would want our lawyers to exhaust every means to get the results we want. it was their job and they did it well.
nonetheless, i applaud (not to be mistaken for admiration) nicole for making the new affidavit knowing fully well that she will be subjected to "public outrage". its one thing to lie and another to admit to lying.
and as for daniel smith and for the other daniel smiths out there, keep it in your pants and no one gets hurt.
to my fellow filipinas, don't ever forget that no means NO. never hesitate to cry rape. we are not defined by the wrongdoing of one person.
maybe NICOLE is another Atenean... You mean same school as Erap, Atty.Verano, PGMA, FG, Romulo Neri and Argee Guevarra?
yes, nicole is atenean. ateneo de zamboanga... I knew it! A fellow of Red Horse Gallops!
Maybe Rain and Nicole were classmates?
I never bought her story that she was raped, nakakaawa si Smith, so young then and life (and future?) wasted, dapat idemanda niya si Nicole. Nakakahiya din ang lawyer and the judge who found him guilty, halatang sumakay lang sa public clamor noon na i-convict si Smith. Tsk, tsk.. may karma din kayo! Minsan talaga nakakahiyang maging Pilipino.
Even if she's a prostitute or not, if you were used for sex when you dont have the capacity to say NO or YES that is rape, wife can get raped too by their husbands.
This is a mockery of of our justice system, and exploitation of filipino being poor.
This is a sad day for US filipino, and to think that we keep blaming her for this, SHAME ON US!
bakit ba yan mga ateneista palagi in the news for the wrong reasons?
@anon6:17pm
you 4got jocjoc, celso de los angeles, merceditas guitierez, teehankee, kris aquino, etc.
buti na lang di ako pumasa sa acet(ateneo college entrance test) or i would have been a thief or a pokpok.
I agree with Gerri.
Oh my god this is like a thesis on:
"the role of money, lies and deceptions in manipulating a verdict (beyond a reasonable doubt). The infantilism of the Philippine Justice System".
Thank my ancestors and RainB's that our friend Mr Gorrell found ATTORNEY Trixie.
Great advice by the way Ma'am Trixie, a decision made within the legal and cultural framework only a brilliant strategist knows!!! with the client's welfare in mind than ones own pocket which is very RARE in the Philippines
as for NIcole Suzette Et Al. whatever her name is now, good luck in your dream of being AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
FYI, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS FILING for chapter 11, (will be soon) hehehe.
you should have married a Chinese they own America. They have 800 billion of Uncle Sams greens and THEY ARE NOW SHIFTING THEIR RESERVES AWAY FROM THE GREENBACK.
ANYWAY bitchface GOODLUCK !!!
(hoy deadlyjoke lang instead of me crying, wag pikon)
ishley she wasn't raped dear.. read the frikin transcript!
Maybe Rain and Nicole were classmates? Hmmmn I think they are!
harharharhar!!!!!
"you 4got jocjoc, celso de los angeles, merceditas guitierez, teehankee, kris aquino, etc.
buti na lang di ako pumasa sa acet(ateneo college entrance test) or i would have been a thief or a pokpok."
ATENISTA PURO POKPOK!
ATENISTA PURO POKPOK! AGREEEE!
Nicole is not the enemy
By Inday Espina-Varona
It was, in the parlance of negotiators, a lose-lose situation. Nicole, the woman raped by American serviceman Daniel Smith, the woman whose face the Inquirer bared cruelly on its front pages today, knew what awaited her.
And she was right. The insults, the slurs, the indignation rained as heavy as they did when PR hacks hired for the defense of Smith (and the government he serves) tried to justify a crime by painting Nicole as a woman of loose morals.
That Nicole practically damns herself the same way now does not excuse the stone throwing.
A woman of loose morals can be raped. Indeed, a woman seen by society as one with loose morals is most vulnerable to rape. A society that fumes at a woman’s attempt to live by her own rules will turn its eyes away and close its ears when men decide to impose the most humiliating punishment they can on this singular, defiant woman.
There’s a line in the Green Mile. To paraphrase: people who think themselves enlightened can perpetrate the most horrific deeds. By commission they do this; likewise, by omission.
Like many friends, I, too, would like to see a lopsided, onerous treaty provided rescinded. A country may open its doors to troops of a military ally if it helps build up its own defense capabilities; what makes the VFA unjust are the provisions clearly skewed towards the bigger power. Until the VFA treats erring American troops like erring Filipino troops, it remains unacceptable. (One might point out that too many erring Filipino soldiers have walked away scot-free but we can’t have everything and just a slight evening out of the field is enough for me.)
But yearning for a noble goal – abolition of an onerous treaty – does not mean it is right for us to drag Nicole through the mud once more. There is no more self-serving, selfish comment than to wail we’ve been had because Nicole issued an affidavit virtually clearing Smith.
So she crumbled. So she groveled before might and the power of the American dream. So what? A close reading of the affidavit shows she doesn’t say the rape NEVER happened. She just spouts what the defense wants her to say.
Many raped women have crumbled in the face of much, much less – say, the tears of an apologetic husband or boyfriend, or the pleas of a family tired of braving the sneers and leers, or just the mounting bills of a legal battle; or maybe just the pleas of one man’s mother, and/or the promise of marriage to make an “honest” woman of her — with all the subtext of she-was-asking-for-it.
We in the media and people’s organizations know of tortured folk recanting on earlier testimony. It doesn’t make them allies of evil men; it simply means there were factors heavy enough to crush determination and courage.
Was it naïve of Nicole to expect aid from the Philippine government? Maybe. But many Filipinos do expect government or government officials to help them. Why are there long lines of supplicants at the gates of mayors and congressmen and governors?
Besides, it’s not just the government. People’s orgs and NGOs – even the media – are there to succor the afflicted. But our attention spans are also as short as the public’s. We are not evil; we just have other, “more important” things to attend to.
How many times have we in media done a round of mea culpa when discussing human rights? We admit we cannot always keep the lights shining on one particular case – and that often starts the slide to defeat. That does not make us in the media bad; we know the many reasons for this situation. If we can accept this, why cannot we accept the loneliness and bewilderment of the violated, their impatience and their hopelessness?
Likewise, I have been around these circles of aid-givers enough to know that there is some residual middle-class desire to expect people we help to be docile and grateful, when in truth the task of working for justice does not guarantee good manners and right conduct among those we seek to aid.
Oh yes, there are many do-gooders who can barely mask their pinched noses as they go about giving aid, and there are those whose faces turn red and mouths turn down when they are met with less than obsequious thanks in their tours of duty or because the people they help just can’t be bothered by the higher isms of the day. That’s not to denigrate aid givers as evil; just to make them out as truly human, the same way the people they serve, Nicole included, are just as human.
The truth is, Nicole has walked a long, long way in this ordeal; longer than most women who have suffered rape.
Just a little over a week ago, I had to double check some documents from the Bacolod police because they initially seemed exaggeratedly negative. Of 36 cases of acts of lasciviousness report last year, only six were filed with the fiscal. Of 943 cases of violence against women, only 13 were filed in court. Of 26 rape cases, only six were filed. In the case minors, the ratio was nine of 34 rape cases ending up in court.
Nicole, at least, braved cross-examination and the harsh glare of the media spotlight, including the baring of her real identity name.
She mustered the strength for this because many of us supported her – whether because rape alone was enough to stir us to outrage or because she was a vehicle to reach a higher goal.
And now she has crumbled. Why are we so irate? How many friends do we know who voluntarily joined this or that cause but dropped out after sometime? Do we sneer and call them traitors? Don’t we even share meals with those who now serve the government, no matter if the thought of this government makes us puke?
How many on Facebook were once firm believers in this or that cause? Nobody pressured us to join those causes, right? Did we face a mob when we decided to leave?
Well, Nicole never volunteered for the cause. She had to be raped to join it. She never asked to be poster girl for nationalists; she was made one by virtue of rape.
There are a million and one reasons for despair and hopelessness. A noble cause cannot always hold one above the waters. Nor will a lynching make our cause more right.
Nicole is not the enemy. Let’s not treat her like one.
(pinoypress.net / Reposted with permission from the author)
Socialite: O dear, o dear, please pardon my language but I have to get this message across to Daniel Smith:
Ayan! Shet! Puro kayo kasi puke ng puke! Nandito naman yung puwet ko. Shet! Puke o Pwet? Mag Puwet ka na kasi...KASING SARAP PERO HINDI KASING MAHAL! Kasi naman Nicole, gaga ka talaga, inuupuan na namin sinusubo nyo pa?! Ano mahilig ba kayo sa Peanut butter namen mga Reyna?!
At ikaw Smith! Mag bago ka na! THE SENSATION IS THE SAME! Punyeta. Magbago ka na! Go P U W E T na!!!
Kung hinde a-arte arte ka dyan, ayan ma papala mo. Mga pukeng inang pok-pok galing Zamboanga tulad ni Nicole.
Anu Ba!!!!!
Say mo Kitty Go? Tama ba? Ma-arte sila ano? Hahaha.
Oh dear, oh dear. Have I said to much? There`s nothing more that I really want to say to you. But all you have to do is look at me to know, that every word I said is TRUE.
O, di va? :)
I think I'll convince my daughter not to enroll at ADMU.
there was nothing believable in what she said from the start.
smith's testimony that he didn't rape her was really solid.
hayyy politics in pinas. kakahiya. san kaya dito sa US nagpunta si nicole at nang masambunutan.
Brian Shane pulls similar shit (as Nicole) and you guys eat it up.
Um, would Victorina's ties to the Teehankees family be a reason to slam Legarda?
This site is so wonky.
if rizal were alive, he would not attend school at ateneo.
Andrew who is slamming Legarda? She is Amiel's co-Asser in UP. It's unlikely for Amiel to put the Senator down.
What an illogical statement from Andrew : "would Victorina's ties to the Teehankees family be a reason to slam Legarda"
Andrew are you another Atenean?
ATENISTA PURO POKPOK...you 4got jocjoc, celso de los angeles, merceditas guitierez, pepper teehankee, celine lopez (under grad) kris aquino, argee guevarra, anton mendoza(under grad), danton remoto, mikey arroyo, mike arroyo and gloria arroyo!
nicole is such a stupid whore! nakakahiya! mas nakakahiya yung mga tao na dnefend sya. atty, katrina legarda and the stupid gabriella. shut your fucking mouths!
NATIONAL SHAME: atty, katrina legarda and the stupid gabriella. shut your fucking mouths!
free papa daniel!
ako nalang ang mag-papa rape sakanya!
I love you papa!
ATTY katrina legarda should marry Atty. Argee Guevarra!
THIS IS FUNNY SOMEHOW.. I HAVE NEVER BELIEVE NICOLE'S STORY.. NOBODY IN HER RIGHT MIND IF YOU'RE NOT A PROSTITUE OR POK POK WOULD EVER GO TO SUCH PLACES.. WHATEVER HAPPENED..I KNOW THAT HER STATEMENT IS ALSO COACHED AND FOR SOMEONW WHO HATES AMERICA CHOOSES TO COME HERE AND START ANEW.. BAKA MANG RAPE KA DITO ULIT.. HOY NAKAKAHIYA AS IN SOBRA NA.. YOU'RE NOT PRETTY PA NAMAN...UGLIER VERSION OF T.A. HAHAHAHA
hay.. this is what i want to read more from victorina.. di ung story ng mga bakla.. mga ingitira and all..pati k arnold n mojo pinatulan ba naman dahil best friend ng isang writer dito.. anu bah??? peace pow
ikulong nyo nalang ako kasama ni papa daniel. tutal ako naman si chikatime!
Hindi ko maintindihan kung bakit pinapaikot-ikot ng Gabriela at Ursua ang issue at sinasabing biktima kasi si Nicole ng justice system ng Pilipinas kaya nag-recant, napakalinaw na ginagawan pa ng spin ng mga napahiya, nag-convict kasi ng inosente kaya panindigan na lang ang pagkakamali at gawan ng spin ang istorya. Walang ibang biktima dito kungdi si Daniel Smith, he was wrongfully convicted, yang Ursua, Legarda at Gabriela na yan saving face na lang dahil napahiya. Makonsensya sana kayo, may balik ang karma! Nag-convict kayo ng inosente!
I think "Boldstar" is Kitty Go, yung blooger na ang lakas ng loob mamintas matronish naman. Di kayang itago ng Roger Vivier ang itsura niya.
pansinin daw si bryan boy
bryanboy = baduy
Hay naku! Wag na natin pang pagbigyan na mag tago pa ang babeng yan sa isang pseudonym; Suzette Nicolas! That is her name. Remember her as the girl who used sex to trap a young American into Glorai Arroyo's political plans. Or didnt anyone notice that Daniel Smith was a card GMA played to keep the Americans from supporting upright dissenters such as those coming from the AFP?
SUZETTE NICOLAS. Dont forget her name. She allowed a man to go to jail even if she didnt believe he committed a crime against her. And for what??? Money and a visa for herself and political gains for her patron.
She is no victim.
whatever happened to ateneo's mantra A MAN FOR OTHERS? i think during rizal's time it was FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD.
ATENISTA PURO POKPOK...you 4got jocjoc, celso de los angeles, merceditas guitierez, pepper teehankee, celine lopez (under grad) kris aquino, argee guevarra, anton mendoza(under grad), danton remoto, mikey arroyo, mike arroyo and gloria arroyo....
NICOLE and RAIN!
HOY may nakalimutan kang POKPOK na Atenista- CITO LORENZO!
HOY may nakalimutan kang POKPOK na Atenista- CITO LORENZO... the mother of all POKPOKS!
I think "Boldstar" is Kitty Go, yung blooger na ang lakas ng loob mamintas matronish naman. Di kayang itago ng Roger Vivier ang itsura niya.
reply:
hoy dont insult Ma'am Kitty hoy!!!!
I am just a nobody!! A citizen concerned about the welfare of the Republic....
HOY may nakalimutan kang POKPOK na Atenista- CITO LORENZO... the mother of all POKPOKS!
agree... they are all FERTILIZER BABY's!
I think "Boldstar" is Kitty Go, yung blooger na ang lakas ng loob mamintas matronish naman. Di kayang itago ng Roger Vivier ang itsura niya.
reply:
hoy dont insult Ma'am Kitty hoy!!!!
Ngek! Dakilang julalay ng matrona..
Perhaps Daniel Smith can retrieve the P100,000 he paid to Suzette Nicolas. He ought to be released as well so he can move on with his life. I'm not sure if he can sue her for what she put him through - but knowing the Philippine (in)justice system, it might not be worth the pursuing any legal remedies.
Haaay Pilipinas, when will you wake up and implement reforms. When will the Catholic church take responsibility for the colossal moral failures of Philippine society (most corrupt in Asia for 2 years in a row - and the church is strangely silent on this dubious distinction).
Will we Filipinos ever see the day when good will finally prevail over the overwhelming corruption that seems to define our past and present history?
Bash Ateneo all you want (and while you're at it don't forget to include that insipid Atenean Tracy Isabel Borres), but Ateneo is not just the problem. Our political elites are also educated at La Salle & UP Diliman (Romulo Neri is from Diliman).
mga timang...
boldstar is more likely to be nicole than she is kitty go. susmaryusep.
"Sexual abuse victims has always and will always eventually put the blame to themselves. What more with Nicole who was born and raised in the Philippines, where being raped is already a social no no, and being raped at a place where practically every woman is perceived as a whore?"
- previous comment from Gerri..
Huh? where in the world is rape not a social no no? And practically every woman in the Philippines is perceived as a whore?
Mag-tagalog na lang kasi eh. Haller?
RainB said...
mga timang...
boldstar is more likely to be nicole than she is kitty go. susmaryusep.
March 23, 2009 11:42 PM
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Rainb Are you calling Boldstar a prostitute?
Hmnnnn... hawig 'tong rape incident ni Nicole sa Duke University Lacrosse Team rape case. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Duke_University_lacrosse_case
Once sumakay ang media at politika sausapin, it isn't about the truth anymore. Kawawang Smith...
The only thing left for Smith to do now is do what Americans do best...
SUE THAT HOE!! SUE THAT HOE!!!!!! Grrr..
Zzzz. okay, i live in subic and neptune club as all of us know in here is a whore house. its not a place to have a slice of pizza and drink alone. no woman is allowed inside that club unescorted. that is the truth. she was backed up by politicians and militants who only want some media attention fo themselves.
and i just learned that she's from zamboanga. no offense to othe people but prostitutes here hailed from the southern parts of our country.
"Huh? where in the world is rape not a social no no? And practically every woman in the Philippines is perceived as a whore?
Mag-tagalog na lang kasi eh. Haller?"
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reply to anon
When I said "she was born and raised in the Philippines" I meant she was born and raised in a conservative society. And when I said "where women are perceived as a whore" I was talking about the scene of the 'crime' Weren't she raped in Olongapo?
susmio, dada ka kasi ng dada nagmukha ka tuloy engot.
@anon march 23 10:29
don't lump la salle and UP with your beloved ateneo. we're discussing shameful alumni and ateneans are a breed apart.
Read Kitty Go's blog, obvious na affected siya sa mga comments dito na tinawag siyang matrona. Yung pagyayabang niya parang defense mechanism na lang..
"She said she was too drunk that night and might have been 'too friendly' with Smith and might have led him on to think that it was all right to have sex with her inside a van."
Heartbreaking. No matter how drunk & friendly she thinks she might have been.. if a man had sex with her against her will, that is rape, and she should not feel guilty. — Olivia, New York, NY;
March 18, 2009 3:10 pm
Yes, there is a lot missing from this article. This was a
highly celebrated case that was followed by the local media for months in the Philippines. It mobilized womens/human rights groups and divided sectors of Filipino Society along party lines, ie progressives vs conservatives who were more concerned about straining
US-RP relations than seeking justice in a rape case.
Finally, after DNA evidence against Cpl Smith became indefensible, he was found guilty and sentenced. That
sentence was never carried out because of the VFA agreement between the US and the Philippines...
Lisa Polotan MD, Brooklyn NY
— Lisa Shepard, Brooklyn; March 18, 2009 3:10 pm
This is hardly enough evidence for an overturning of a conviction. My wife has worked with domestic violence and sexual assault victims and it is quite common for those who have experienced sexual assault to blame themselves for "leading" the perpetrator on or other such things. The quotes in this article show a woman exhibiting a tentativeness in her statements that are being characterized as "changing the story" that is common for those who have been through such an experience. This sadly common occurrence is a result of a number of factors such as culture and societal norms that serve to blame women for being assaulted though it was not their own fault. That this sexual assault was even reported in uncommon enough, plenty of evidence has shown that sexual assault is severely under-reported no matter what the social class in our own and many many other "modern" countries. just look at one of the other stories to come out today about the surge of sexual assaults in our own military!
— bluemorocco, wi; March 18, 2009 3:10 pm
Despite her (partial) "recantation" (it wasn't so much a recantation as a statement saying how she could see D. Smith getting the wrong idea)- it seems highly implausible that accuser would be so willing to have sex in a van w/ THREE other men looking on (in fact, it's much more plausible that the 3 other egged D. Smith to go further than he should have).
The fact that the woman is now living in the US makes one really question her motive in trying to make D. Smith more sympathetic (really, it doesn't matter if a guy thinks a girl is amenable to sex b/c he is on a "date"; if a girl says no or is too inebriated to give proper consent, then it is sexual assault).
— JS, New York, NY; March 18, 2009 4:35 pm
Thanks for going out of your way to find a rape victim who "lied" NYT. I won't hold my breath waiting for an article on the number of women who never report their rape or the number of rapes that are never prosecuted because the DA doesn't think a jury will convict a guy if the women was drinking or not beaten etc.
If the women didn't want to have sex, she was raped. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SHE WAS A PROSTITUTE who took a guys money and then said stop in the middle of sex and he didn't.
Any guy who thinks a woman wants to have sex with him WHILE HIS FRIENDS EGG HIM ON, needs to put down the porn and get help.
— Tracey, Pasadena; March 18, 2009 5:00 pm
http://community.nytimes.com/article/comments/2009/03/19/world/asia/19phils.html