Indeed “god” works in mysterious ways!"

Takot sa Katolico!

GIBO IS SPINELESS AND THE WIFE IS A MORON. These two have no integrety. The don't think about this country and its people. They just want to be elected, no matter what. All they need to do is look around - children evrywhere in need of food, shelter and education. I am totally disgusted with these two. They are rich so they can have all the children they want, screw the people. DISGUSTING, DISGUSTING COUPLE.

I guess mahirap nga kumita ang isang blog...why not accept pr money na lang from the administration party...haha...

a couple of idiots. and he wants to be our president. their senseless arguments are insulting to any of us, even to a person with half a brain.

Go Victorina... All Presidentiables are under the MICROSCOPE!

Victorina is the only blog na walang sinasanto!

anon 1032 ... you have very bad reading comprehension skills! The article criticizes the Teodoros. Maybe it's better for you to a less intelligent blog like Ang Magdalo, Ellen Tordesillas or the Rain Barnido blog!

While I agree with your comments about Gibo and his wife...I will NOT vote for Gibo as he is the same as Noynoy...mga hacienderos, I do not agree that we have an overpopulation problem. So the RH bill has, in fact, no basis at all. Population is NOT a problem. It is an opportunity.

In 2004, Prof. Ernesto Pernia of the UP School of Economics wrote: “Rapid population growth alone cannot explain poverty. Bad governance, high wealth and income inequality and weak economic growth are the main causes.” The bill confuses priorities by calling for population control to achieve development. But isn’t development the result of good governance and isn’t good governance the fruit of principled politics? That for every P100 in the government budget, P60 go to private pockets and that a lamppost that costs only P15,000 is purchased at P150,000.00 – or an LGU paying P50 thousand each for 470 units of computers costing only P19 thousand each - shows us how unprincipled our politics is. Studies show that from 1977 to 1997, a total of $48 billion was lost due to corruption, exceeding our foreign debt, at that time, of $40 billion.

Political corruption is getting in the way of development. Perhaps what needs to be controlled are another group of people, not the poor.

Anon 11:03

Your argument is null and void. You are talking about the past. Look at the situation now. There is not one competent economist who will agree with your arguments. It is simple economics. You are just repeating church propaganda.

I think that Cong. Nikki Teodoro made a praiseworthy decision -a decision which was made after much thought and deliberation. Keep in mind, she is a child welfare advocate and co-authored the anti-child porn bill and so she has more substance than meets the eye. That being said, I think that what she said makes a lot of sense. The problem of poverty would be addressed best by focusing on fixing/reforming our system and institutions so that corruption is considerably lessened if not eradicated completely, improving our standards of education and making it possible for all to have access to it, making improvements on our institutions and laws so that our institutions become more efficient and our laws benefit all of us regardless of class, etc. All of these would require massive amounts of investment and political will and they are doable.Why not make these our priorities? It would be wiser to focus on these and other positive measures rather than spend millions promoting artificial contraception and indirectly,abortion both of which have already been shown to weaken the institution of marriage,cause the break up of families, cause a breakdown in morality ,encourage more promiscuity, cause stds, aids,HPV,etc. Promoting this kind of agenda would cause an explosion of HPV which can still cause infection despite condom use and which actually thrives on an environment wherein people have multiple partners over a lifetime. HPV in turn causes several kinds of cancer.If this RH bill passes, people will be lulled into thinking that they can indulge in reckless behavior and there will be no consequences. Nothing could be further from the truth! Instead of advocating for artificial means of birth control, we should be focusing on promoting abstinence and sex within marriage so as to avoid the physical, mental, emotional, social consequences brought about by the former.Because this artificial birth control program divorces sex from its true meaning and value, abuses are bound to happen .Complications and problems will result and these will cost us dearly. Will our gov't have the extra funds for those who will contract HPV, stds, and other cancers years down the road? Will there be extra funds for unwanted pregnancies and the resulting demand for abortions ? I think not.These are but some of the consequences that await us if such a bill passes . There are studies (like the ones done for Africa)that prove that values education and the promotion of sex within marriage only or monogamous sex,and abstinence before marriage,is actually much more effective in population control and lesssening the incidences of sicknesses brought about by irresponsible sexual behavior.But abortion and contraceptives are big business and there will be those that will fight values formation/education focused programs, and abstinence promotion tooth and nail! Will we commit the same mistakes other countries have made by investing in these ineffective programs and waste millions of pesos, or will we be smarter and invest in more intelligent, pro-life,more wholistic programs? We should focus on fixing more pressing problems like corruption, the low standards of education, lack of access to education, and the like. Ultimately, the passing of the RH bill will cause more poverty as well as an erosion of values; it would also be a waste of valuable resources which could be put to better use in other more productive programs. On a more practical note, our country would be better served if it is not burdened further with the health problems, complications, and other negative consequences that the passing of such a bill would surely cause. For those interested in further reading, I have posted some links:

http://www.physiciansforlife.org/content/section/11/36/

http://www.physiciansforlife.org/content/view/1785/2/

Gibo is definitely not spineless and has integrity. He has a clean record and his credentials speak for themselves.He is actually the best qualified among the ones running for president.

the peace and order situation, social services , infrastructure are other issues that need to be tackled..aside from education and corruption. so many things that we need to prioritize...The RH bill is not a priority. It will bring more negative results than positive.

Nikki Teodoro does not know anything except spouting the church doctrine. Progressive countries need well-informed people who can decide for themselves and not the pointless rhetoric above. People have the right to information and facts on how they can plan their families, not more lies.

I agree that the RH Bill should not be a priority when Congress resumes sessions, but not for the sheer "pulitika" reasons that Rep. Nikki Prieto-Teodoro cites.

In the first place, there's a huge difference between "reproductive health" and "population control." House Bill 5043 is largely a population control bill, not a reproductive health bill. For a much more detailed definition of reproductive health, you can click here..

Legislation on reproductive health *should* be a priority bill in Congress, but thus far House Bill 5043 is just a hodgepodge of blanket provisions and finger-pointing, with very little in the way of defining what new/improved RH services will be put in place and enforced by law. We don't need this kind of law in place, and our taxpayer's money would be best spent on other things, like finding REAL ways to combat poverty and corruption.

yup it's time for popuation control!

Population growth is not the problem. It is the other problems that need tackling. This is a myth and there are studies to prove it. Let us not waste money and time on the RH Bill or we will reap the negative effects...

Unhindered population growth is a problem because our tiny country has only so much land and limited resources. Our arable land is even more limited. These are the facts. Every successful nation in the world knows this. Even a person with half a brain knows this. The church and rich politicians want the people to remain ignorant and poor because they can be easily manipulated and bought. The fact of the matter is the vast majority of Catholics in the world practice family planning and use contraception to plan their families. They do so because they have the knowledge and the means. They also understand the economic consequences if they don’t plan their families. Even in this country, the rich and the middle class do use contraception to plan their families, because they know better and because they have the knowledge and the money to so. The people need to be responsible with their lives and their actions. Empower the poor people by giving them the knowledge and the means. All arguments to the contrary are desperate and laughable.

TEODORO IS RIGHT! what we need to do is to control the growth of poor people. bring them out of poverty.

Victorina must be quite influential because the Teodoro and Nikki drones keep coming back her insisting on their lies and loony ideas. Stop the insanity already.The misleading rhetoric and senseless arguments are unproductive because the VAST MAJORITY of the people in this country want the bill passed. We are still a democracy, aren't we?

Yes, it is time to focus on cleaning up graft and corruption, our economy and our gov't agencies and institutions, our lagging educational system, the problems of law and order, ..If all these and more are tackled, then more of our people will have access to all the basics and more. Look at India, China, both have big populations and yet are very rich and progressive. Let us focus on the REAL problems,..this is not senseless rhetoric but the truth. Let's stick to facts. To spend money on an Rh bill will not solve our problems but will bring another set of problems with it...

and to anon 2:15: we are not drones and we are not proponents of lies and loony ideas. pls do your research. even in the US,and Africa as mentioned above,there have been many studies to prove that artificial means of birth control are not the way to go. natural family planning and also the promotion of abstinence and celibacy are the better options...pls look at the links posted above ..open your eyes. instead of name calling, let's be civilized and be open to the truth.

china has a one-child policy and is a communist country. every couple in china uses contraception to limit the population growth. both china and india are still third-world countries and both countries encourage the use of contraception and family planning very actively. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

yes. the problem is population growth. population control is the broad solution. RHB 5043 is just one of the possible solution being promoted by the Teodoro couple. i think there are still several ways or solution to this problem, and the best of which is Education. i think the government should focus more on this rather than the RHB. I think this is the best way to control the population growth.

The flip-flopping Teodoro's have no credibility whatsoever. He will lose anyway and good riddance.

And yes the RHB should be passed. The Philippine population has doubled in the past 20 years to about 92 million. In 2030 the projection (at current rate) is about 131 million. We will be packed like sardines in this country swimming in our own filth by then. That is really scary.

I think there is no arguing that overpopulation is a problem. But,let me qualify that: it is a problem because of our poor economic conditions and a lack of basic education.It is a problem because of many other problems that need fixing. There are more urgent problems, problems which must be given the most attention and resources.If we tackle overpopulation without tackling these first, we would be wasting our precious funds. What the Teodoros are saying is that there are other ways to tackle the overpopulation problem. why is that so wrong? Just because they propose other means to solve this problem does not mean that they are "idiots". Let's get real here.

http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20091127-238839/Kill-Bill

This is another point of view by another person who was in the body politic. Is he an "idiot" too?

Other Evidence that the RH bill is not the way to go: Pls read if you have an open mind!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21622530/Demographic-Economic-Historical-Evidence-vs-RH-Bill

The vast majority of Filipinos want this bill passed so i think this issue is settled. I too agree that we need this bill now. I know a couple of poor families who really don't want any more children but they can't afford to buy protection. The first family is a family with 7 children and the second family is a family with 5 children already + one on the way. I really don't know how they can survive because the parents only do manual labor. So yes, we need this bill right now.

We strongly oppose the passage of the Reproductive Health Bill (HB5043) for the following reasons:

1. AS EMPLOYERS, we do not want to be compelled to provide free reproductive health care services, supplies, devices and surgical procedures (including vasectomy and ligation) to our employees, and be subjected to both imprisonment and/or a fine, for every time that we fail to comply. (Section 17 states that employers shall provide for free delivery of reproductive health care services, supplies and devices to all workers more particularly women workers. (Definition of Reproductive Health and Rights Section 4, paragraph g, Section 21, Paragraph c and Section 22 on Penalties)

2. AS HEALTH CARE SERVICE PROVIDERS, we do not want to be subjected to imprisonment and/or a fine, if we fail to provide reproductive health care services such as giving information on family planning methods and providing services like ligation and vasectomy, regardless of the patient's civil status, gender, religion or age ( Section 21 on Prohibited Acts, Letter a, Paragraphs 1 to 5 and Section 22 on Penalties)

3. AS SPOUSES, we do not agree that our husband or wife can undergo a ligation or vasectomy without our consent or knowledge. (Section 21 on Prohibited Acts, Letter a, Paragraph 2)

4. AS PARENTS, we do not agree that children from age 10 to 17 should be taught their sexual rights and the means to have a satisfying and "safe" sex life as part of their school curriculum. (Section 12 on Reproductive Health Education and Section 4 Definition of Family Planning and Productive Health, Paragraph b, c and d)

5. AS CITIZENS, we do not want to be subjected to imprisonment and/or pay a fine, for expressing an opinion against any provision of this law, if such expression of opinion is interpreted as constituting "malicious disinformation" ( Section 21 on Prohibited Acts, Paragraph f and Section 22 on Penalties)

6. We also oppose other provisions such as losing our parental authority over a minor child who was raped and found pregnant (Section 21, a, no.3)

7. We also do not agree to the provision which reclassifies contraceptives as essential medicines (Section 10) and appropriating limited government funds to reproductive services instead of basic services (Section 23)

Yes, we need this bill right now. The people do support it and it is the right bill that this country needs. The state has the obligation to see far into the future as to the economic prospects of the country. Also, there are more than half a million abortions in this country because of unwanted pregnacy. We also have the responsibility as civilized human beings to make sure that we don't add more suffering children on the steets. The proof is all around us. The suffering of millions of hungry, dirty and uneducated children with no future should be reduced substantially. I'm looking forward for this bill to be passed and by the looks of it, the majority of Filipinos as well. Good news for all of us - for our future.

dapat sa pilipinas forced castration...pinoys are too horny...masyadong malibog...breeding like rats...castration guys....hehehehe

130++ million Filipinos in a few years.

Great!

Just more of them to export. It's not like they can be hired here in the Philippines anyway.

What's the point of being Filipino if we just have to leave our home country anyway because there's just too many of us & too few jobs because so many of us are stupid & undereducated so we keep voting the same clans/politicians who keep pocketing public funds to maintain the (corrupt) status quo, all the while spouting motherhood & nation-building cliches/statements. Nation destroying is more like it. Politicians do more to hinder progress & development in the Philippines than any other group in the country.

I was willing to look past personality politics & Teodoro's affiliation with the Arroyo administration & consider voting for him based on his platform & ideas for the country.

Now, he definitely WILL NOT get my vote because any politician who does not support the RH health bill does not have the country's best interests at heart.

Yes to the RH bill...yah,yah,yah.
No Gibo and Nikki...noh,noh.noh.
The Teodoros are morons...yes they are, yes they are, yes they are.

The RH Bill has long been a myth, it is not the concrete solution to the overpopulation numerous studies were conducted to other countries having similar RH Laws. The Teodoro’s probably realized this. Even the greatest minds commits simple mistakes what counts is the ability of that person to make decisions and formulate solutions. We are defined not just by the decisions but by the solutions we have made. The proposed RH Bill have long been a subject of never ending debates and the proponents of such Bill failed to give any convincing grounds that it will work in our country which is predominantly Catholics. To the mudslinging people who call the Teodoro’s names, I only have one comment… take a look at yourselves first and ask yourselves what you have done to your country. The Teodoro’s have long been in the Public Service and has accomplished a lot for their people, and for this country. They are not the typical politicians who mask themselves as “pro poor” or “ galling sa mahirap” giving our less fortunate kababayans false hopes and pretending to know the plight of the poor where in fact they are the ones living I pure luxurious lives. The Teodoros are not trapos they are simply themselves known for their service and performance not merely relying on expensive TV ads but instead advocates their solutions and concrete programs for this country. For me this blog is purely “Black Propaganda” the writers of this post are merely opportunists and wannabes who would stop at nothing for fame and attention. No wonder they can’t even reveal who they are…”this Blog works in mysterious ways”.

the disgusting thing is that these politicians actually believe that our overpopulation is an asset to the world because we are exporting our men and women for labor. so we send our people to be maids, nannies, caregivers, drivers and laborers. they suffer from low pay, long work-hours, homesickness, loneliness and abuse. in the mean time our politicians are enjoying the high-life fattening their bodies and pockets at our expense. maybe they should send their wives, sons and daughters to labor in other countries and see how it feels before they open their vapid mouths.

never to Gibo and Nikki. Gibo failed with Ondoy, he failed with the Ampatuans and he is Gloria's you know what.

no to RH bill.

yes to the choice and more extensive education of the people regarding population control, but NO to IMPOSING this on people.

having companies and institutions FINED if they don't comply? hirap na nga ang mga kumpanya sa pilipinas dadagdagan niyo pa ng gastos?

most of the powerful countries are the ones with the highest populations. and may i just say that as it is, the birthrate in our country is already in it's way down.

humans still remain to be our biggest and most important resource. why pick on the pregnant mothers when you have a whole flock of greedy politicians and businessmen who take what's rightfully ours??

no to RH bill.

haters. hahaha. why don't you view each issue objectively and stop bashing candidates (be it erap, villar, etc) with words such as "stupid?" BE OBJECTIVE. BE THE EDUCATED INDIVIDUALS YOU ARE.

YOUR CONSERVATISM WON'T LEAD YOU TO ANYWHERE.

YES TO RH BILL

this is what i hate about mga kapwa kong pinoys.. masyadong tayong emotional, we lose focus on the issues and weaken our objectivity.. example na lang tong article na to.. the person who wrote this focused more on the character of this congresswoman rather than what the real issues of the RH Bill is.

Personally, I think we all need to look at how things are run before we create any type of bills or laws.. for example if this is really about reproductive health, then why does it seem like it only advocates family planning and use of contraceptives..they should consult a doctor and ask them what reproductive health is all about.. otherwise we already have an existing bill like pop control, why just not revise it to make it fit for these times.

i dont know this blogger nor do i know this milf looking congresswoman, all i do know is we need to stop being emotional and start being more objective para di tayo gawing tanga ng mga tanga na politicians.

One thing is for sure. Overpopulation is a problem but the RH is not the resolution.

If you ask for the coming elections, GIBO is still the best candidate.